Rumi on evolution

19 February 2009

I am grateful to Isa Daudpota for providing this translation by Jalaluddin Rumi’s verses that elaborate on the theory of evolution:

I have experienced seven hundred and seventy mounds.

I died from minerality and became vegetable;

And from vegetativeness I died and became animal.

I died from animality and became man.

Then why fear disappearance though death?

Next time I shall die

Bringing forth wings and feathers like angels;

After that soaring higher than angels-

What you cannot imagine, I shall be that.

Isa further writes in a recent piece on Darwin’s birthday:

He however is concerned with conscious evolution that allows him to interact with objective reality through going beyond the constraints of his own material and earthly characteristics. He continues in the Buddhist vein to say, “Let me therefore be nothing.” For him the deepest insight is gained in perfect ‘nothingness’ which is in harmony with divine consciousness, the kind claimed by Socrates and the Semitic prophets. Darwin’s theory overturned such spiritualistic ideas with hard empirically verifiable facts.






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11 Comments to “Rumi on evolution”

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  2. Since Rumi writes in relativistic terms and also about the unseen in probabilistic manner, furthermore his followers spin on their longitudinal axis for some unknown reasons, are we to assume that he is the real father of quantum mechanics and theory of relatively? These are affine transformations. It is best to leave him buried where he is instead of dragging him in the evolution debate.

  3. Can’t really see the connection with evolution but his lines remain powerful as ever.
    The journey, in the spiritual sense that Rumi meant to portray, continues however.Merging into the divine,becoming one with the divine or finally coming into the stage of’nothingness’ remain the leit motif of spiritual quests in present times too.

  4. Here is an interesting paper that describes the role of evolution in Rumi’s metaphysics:
    http://www.religioperennis.org/documents/blacks/evolutionism.pdf

  5. Thanks for sharing!

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  7. Raza bhai these verses are not on evolution. Isa sahib is merely providing his own context in a frivolous mis-reading of Sufism.

    These verses should be interpreted in the Sufi context. They rather refer to the Islamic order of Creation, jamadat, nabatat, haywanat, insan: the mineral, vegetable, animal and human worlds. Each world depends on the preceding for it’s life, or survival. From the unenlightened point of view, the death of each [mineral or vegetable] seems an end, but actually they become the building blocks of a higher order of life. So we come to man, the pinnacle of creation, yet with the potential to be the lowest of the low [asfala safileen]. He too fears his death and clings to life. But if he “dies before death” and annhilates his Ego, man can transcend this Earthly life and achieve Nearness with God, the stations of Fana Fillah and Baqa Billah, which even the angels cannot aspire to.

  8. Also look at the dozens of verses where Rumi affirms the Creation ex nihilo of Adam PBUH, and reiterates the Qur’anic argument against the Divinity of Jesus PBUH, by comparing his birth without a father from Divine Decree [kun fa ya kun] with that of Adam, born without father or mother.

  9. [...] If to marrow wasn’t such a long time………. This week’s Theme Thursday is “Vegetable” …………..EVOLUTION First of all he came into the inert world.From minerality he developed,into the realm of vegetation.For years he lived thus.Then he passed into an animal state,yet bereft of any memory of his being vegetable-except for his attraction to Spring and to blossoms.This was something like the innate desire of an infant for its mother’s breast.Or like the affinity of disciples for an illustrious guide.When the shadow is no more, they know the cause of their attachment to the teacher…From realm to realm man went,reaching his present reasoning,knowledgeable,robust state;forgetting earlier forms of intelligence.So too shall he pass beyond the current form of perception.There are a thousand other forms of Mind………But he has fallen asleep.He will say:”I had forgotten my fulfilment,ignorant that sleep and fancy were the cause of my sufferings”He says:”My sleeping experiences do not matter”.Come,leave such asses to their meadow.Because of necessity,man acquires organs.So,necessitous one,increase your need.Jal?l ad-D?n Mu?ammad Rumihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumihttp://cyclewalabanda.blogspot.com/2009/03/hazrat-maulana-rumi-ra-and-evolution.htmlhttp://www.razarumi.com/2009/02/19/rumi-on-evolution/ Posted by tony 30 comments at 3/19/2009 Links to this post [...]

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