“Living in today’s Pakistan” – an interview for WPKN

From Tidings Blog featuring my interview which was broadcast on WPKN radio last year. Yes I have been a little lazy in posting all the stuff here.

Hazel’s intro was rather generous: “Raza Rumi is a Pakistani writer, blogger and political analyst who spoke to me from Lahore, where he lives.

He is also an adherent of Sufi thought and adopted the surname Rumi as his nom de plume, in tribute to the great 13th century poet and mystic.”

Hazel Kahan has summarised some of the key points below and but those who can put up with my rants should click here –

In our wide-ranging interview, Raza spoke eloquently and poignantly about his country and what it is like to be living in Pakistan these days.  Through his lens we can see another Pakistan, a parallel society that has been obscured by the prevailing image of militaristic, unreliable and confusing Pakistan given to us by the mainstream media.

I have summarized some of the significant points Raza made but I do urge you to listen to him in his own compelling voice.

1. ” Much of Pakistan seemingly inextricable alliance with Afghanistan and the Taliban can be explained by its existential fear, a genuine insecurity of being encircled by India.  Retaining its ties to the militants is one way of protecting itself from its huge eastern neighbor and as leverage in the endgame of Afghanistan.  (What that endgame will be is shrouded in mystery nobody really has a clue of how to approach and how to handle it.)

2. “The shared geography, history and culture of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, the continuum between Pakistan and     Afghanistan makes it very difficult to separate the two.

3.”Now you have two Talibans, the ones who attack NATO troops and the ones who attack Pakistani people.   Pakistani people want to get rid of the Taliban because their lives have been traumatized we feel really angry and were also suffering  In this power politics, Afghanistan and Pakistan are burning.

4.These are extraordinary times, a serious crisis as Pakistan struggles between two paths: its South Asian, more secular identity and the puritan Arab identity of Saudi Arabia’s global Islam.

5. Pakistan is a society in major transition, created by the twin trends of urbanization which has brought women into the work force and into public prominence and a dynamic youth-driven culture, profound social change growing in parallel with the incumbent jihadi presence.

6. Muslims and Islam are not a monolith, with enormous variations among  Southeast, South and Central Asia, Iran, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan societies.

7.This call for Sharia, for theocracy, is nothing but an attempt to capture power  vis- -vis the West.

8. Help Pakistan stabilize, grow and develop rather than  penalize it in a momentary game of chess being played in Afghanistan Be a friend of the Pakistani people and of civil society instead of helping the generals.

9. Because of the visible and tangible projects funded by China, the perception is that China is a better friend of Pakistan than the US.Please listen to this Tidings interview with Raza Rumi, first heard on WPKN, an independent, free speech radio station broadcasting from Bridgeport, CT.

You can link to Raza’s blogs here, here and here.


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